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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: custom:javascript
By: nelgin to wiki.synchro.net on Thu Jun 26 2025 13:53:13

Greetings:

It would be really helpful if it were possible to do searches/sorts with echo-mail and files areas. It gets rather tedious having to scroll page after page looking for a particular group or file. Basically, if it's a list, you should be able to search/sort it.

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 22:50:09 -0500
"Mortar" <mortar@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: custom:javascript
By: nelgin to wiki.synchro.net on Thu Jun 26 2025 13:53:13

Greetings:

It would be really helpful if it were possible to do searches/sorts
with echo-mail and files areas. It gets rather tedious having to
scroll page after page looking for a particular group or file.
Basically, if it's a list, you should be able to search/sort it.

I'm not sure what this has to do with an updated wiki article but ok.

Try DDMsgReader. It should be in xtrn. The ability to search an echo is
already available. IN the default menu it's "F" for "Find text in
messages".
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Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: nelgin to All on Fri Jun 27 2025 09:25 am

It would be really helpful if it were possible to do searches/sorts with
echo-mail and files areas. It gets rather tedious having to scroll page

Try DDMsgReader. It should be in xtrn. The ability to search an echo is already available. IN the default menu it's "F" for "Find text in messages".

That feature is in stock Synchronet too, not just DDMsgReader.

Nightfox

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Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Mortar to All on Thu Jun 26 2025 10:50 pm

It would be really helpful if it were possible to do searches/sorts with echo-mail and files areas. It gets rather tedious having to scroll page after page looking for a particular group or file. Basically, if it's a list, you should be able to search/sort it.

For listing the file areas & message groups/sub-boards, the DD area choosers let you search the list (with / to find and N to find next), and they have user configuration options to sort the lists too.

For searching within messages, as mentioned, the "Find text in messages" option from the menu can do that.

Nightfox

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On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 11:17:44 -0700
"Nightfox" (VERT/DIGDIST) <VERT/DIGDIST!Nightfox@endofthelinebbs.com>
wrote:

Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: nelgin to All on Fri Jun 27 2025 09:25 am

It would be really helpful if it were possible to do
searches/sorts with echo-mail and files areas. It gets rather
tedious having to scroll page

Try DDMsgReader. It should be in xtrn. The ability to search an
echo is already available. IN the default menu it's "F" for
"Find text in messages".

That feature is in stock Synchronet too, not just DDMsgReader.

Nightfox

True, but I think it's worth mentioning that it's a good option.
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Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: nelgin to All on Fri Jun 27 2025 09:25:14

I'm not sure what this has to do with an updated wiki article but ok.

My bad. I should've started a new topic. I figured just changing the Subject line would be sufficient.

Try DDMsgReader. It should be in xtrn. The ability to search an echo is already available. IN the default menu it's "F" for "Find text in
messages".

This isn't about the messages themselves, I know that part. This is about the group listings and the file areas. E.g., FIDONET has page after page of groups and they're in no particular order, which makes it tedious to find a particular item.

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Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Nightfox to Mortar on Fri Jun 27 2025 11:21:22

For listing the file areas & message groups/sub-boards, the DD area choosers let you search the list (with / to find and N to find next), and they have user configuration options to sort the lists too.

I'm looking at this from a user's perspective. If this exists, it's not listed on the help screens.

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Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Fri Jun 27 2025 08:55 pm

For listing the file areas & message groups/sub-boards, the DD area
choosers let you search the list (with / to find and N to find next), and
they have user configuration options to sort the lists too.

I'm looking at this from a user's perspective. If this exists, it's not listed on the help screens.

It's not? For me it's there when I view the help screen:

/ or Ctrl-F: Find by name/description
N: Next search result (after a find)

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Mortar to nelgin on Fri Jun 27 2025 08:50 pm

Subject line would be sufficient.

Try DDMsgReader. It should be in xtrn. The ability to search an echo
is already available. IN the default menu it's "F" for "Find text in
messages".

This isn't about the messages themselves, I know that part. This is about the group listings and the file areas. E.g., FIDONET has page after page of groups and they're in no particular order, which makes it tedious to find a particular item.

that's probably because you're on a shitty bbs. there's other bbses that make it more user friendly.
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Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Mortar to nelgin on Fri Jun 27 2025 08:50 pm

This isn't about the messages themselves, I know that part. This is about the group listings and the file areas. E.g., FIDONET has page after page of groups and they're in no particular order, which makes it tedious to find a particular item.

There's the ;find command you can use to find areas (message or file areas) with a particular keyword in their name/description.
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Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Nightfox to Mortar on Fri Jun 27 2025 22:09:54

It's not? For me it's there when I view the help screen:

OK, I guess I wasn't being specific enough. Yep, the "/" and "N" are listed in the help screen, and the command bar for looking up msg. areas, and they do work. However, if you don't have a keyword in mind, it would still be useful to be able to sort the list in various ways.

The area I ment to focus on was the Message Scan Configuration (&,S). I needed to switch off a number of FIDOnet groups and the random manner in which they're listed made it quite tedious.

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Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Sat Jun 28 2025 22:48:24

There's the ;find command you can use to find areas (message or file areas) with a particular keyword in their name/description.

I don't see this on any help screen, nor does it do anything on various msg. or file screens. Where, specifically, can this be invoked?

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Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Mortar to Digital Man on Sun Jun 29 2025 04:12 pm

Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Sat Jun 28 2025 22:48:24

There's the ;find command you can use to find areas (message or file areas) with a particular keyword in their name/description.

I don't see this on any help screen, nor does it do anything on various msg. or file screens. Where, specifically, can this be invoked?

From the main or file menus of the default command shell (and all shells that allow string commands to be entered). It's listed on the ;help menu.
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Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Nightfox to Mortar on Fri Jun 27 2025 22:09:54

It's not? For me it's there when I view the help screen:

OK, I guess I wasn't being specific enough. Yep, the "/" and "N" are listed in the help screen, and the command bar for looking up msg.
areas, and they do work. However, if you don't have a keyword in mind,
it would still be useful to be able to sort the list in various ways.

The area I ment to focus on was the Message Scan Configuration (&,S).
I needed to switch off a number of FIDOnet groups and the random manner
in which they're listed made it quite tedious.

The way they are displayed in a listing is a result of how the Sysop of
that particular board decided to do it.



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Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Sun Jun 29 2025 04:04 pm

It's not? For me it's there when I view the help screen:

OK, I guess I wasn't being specific enough. Yep, the "/" and "N" are listed in the help screen, and the command bar for looking up msg. areas, and they do work. However, if you don't have a keyword in mind, it would still be useful to be able to sort the list in various ways.

You can do that too, with the latest version that I committed to the repo recently. My area choosers now have a user settings dialog which you can open with Ctrl-U; in there, there's an option for sorting. That was released just over a week ago, so it's possible that sysops don't have that yet if they haven't updated recently.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Gamgee to Mortar on Sun Jun 29 2025 04:53 pm

It's not? For me it's there when I view the help screen:

OK, I guess I wasn't being specific enough. Yep, the "/" and "N" are
listed in the help screen, and the command bar for looking up msg. areas,
and they do work. However, if you don't have a keyword in mind, it would
still be useful to be able to sort the list in various ways.

The way they are displayed in a listing is a result of how the Sysop of that particular board decided to do it.

My area choosers can sort now, as of the latest update. That was just over a week ago, on June 18. My area choosers now have a user settings dialog which you can open with Ctrl-U; in there, there's an option for sorting.

Nightfox

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Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Gamgee to Mortar on Sun Jun 29 2025 04:53 pm

It's not? For me it's there when I view the help screen:

OK, I guess I wasn't being specific enough. Yep, the "/" and "N" are
listed in the help screen, and the command bar for looking up msg. areas,
and they do work. However, if you don't have a keyword in mind, it would
still be useful to be able to sort the list in various ways.

The way they are displayed in a listing is a result of how the Sysop of that particular board decided to do it.

My area choosers can sort now, as of the latest update. That was just over a week ago, on June 18. My area choosers now have a user settings dialog which you can open with Ctrl-U; in there, there's an option for sorting.

Excellent - yes I remember seeing that feature addition mentioned but
haven't updated yet. Thanks for reminding me and I'll get updated,
probably next weekend. Thanks also for continuing to support/improve
your products - they are awesome.



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Hey Mortar!

On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:04:06 -0500, you wrote:

The area I ment to focus on was the Message Scan Configuration (&,S). I needed to switch off a number of FIDOnet groups and the random manner in which they're listed made it quite tedious.

I think I know what you're referring to. I'm fairly certain most people import from a FIDONET.NA list, in which the /echotags/ are listed alphabetically. However, the long names displayed on most BBS's for the echo are most definitely not.

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Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Sun Jun 29 2025 14:31:45

From the main or file menus of the default command shell...

As I mentioned earlier, this is from the end-user POV, not Sysop, so that wouldn't apply to me.

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Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Nightfox to Mortar on Sun Jun 29 2025 15:28:20

My area choosers now have a user settings dialog which you can open with Ctrl-U; in there, there's an option for sorting.

What areas will have this, so I can keep an eye out when/if it's available?

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Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Mortar to Digital Man on Sun Jun 29 2025 11:46 pm

Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Sun Jun 29 2025 14:31:45

From the main or file menus of the default command shell...

As I mentioned earlier, this is from the end-user POV, not Sysop, so that wouldn't apply to me.

what the fuck we have an actual user?!!

You should msg your sysop and tell him to make his msg listings more user friendly. too many sysops want to cram in 1000 msg echos and 1000 doorgames and do everything to the max without thinking about the user experience.

if you're complaining about the msg listings having abbreviated names for the msg subs i totally agree with how it sucks. the sysop can clean that up for you.
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Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Sun Jun 29 2025 11:52 pm

My area choosers now have a user settings dialog which you can open with
Ctrl-U; in there, there's an option for sorting.

What areas will have this, so I can keep an eye out when/if it's available?

All of them. And it's not based on area, it's just a feature of my area choosers. And it's available now.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Mortar to Digital Man on Sun Jun 29 2025 11:46 pm

Re: Re: Searching & Sorting
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Sun Jun 29 2025 14:31:45

From the main or file menus of the default command shell...

As I mentioned earlier, this is from the end-user POV, not Sysop, so that wouldn't apply to me.

It does. End users can enter many string comamnds as well, including the ;find command.
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